getting scuff marks out of Marley

[dwickert]

Hey, all --

We've got scuff marks on our Marley, that we're trying to remove. We
normally use 50/50 rubbing alcohol to water to clean it, and we've
tried Goo Gone on the scuffs, which gets out about half of the marks.

Does anyone know of any other products, professional or home remedy,
that can take out the other half?

Thanks!

[Clive Mitchell]

Post by dwickert
We've got scuff marks on our Marley, that we're trying to remove. We
normally use 50/50 rubbing alcohol to water to clean it, and we've
tried Goo Gone on the scuffs, which gets out about half of the marks.
Does anyone know of any other products, professional or home remedy,
that can take out the other half?

What about those "magic sponges" that remove marks with nothing but
water and a bit of rubbing. In the UK the brand is "Vanish". Don't
know how they'd work on Marley, but they get good reviews from pinball
owners removing scuffs from playfields....

[Duncanwood]

Post by dwickert
Hey, all --
We've got scuff marks on our Marley, that we're trying to remove. We
normally use 50/50 rubbing alcohol to water to clean it, and we've
tried Goo Gone on the scuffs, which gets out about half of the marks.
Does anyone know of any other products, professional or home remedy,
that can take out the other half?
Thanks!

If you don't need to roll it then reseal it with vinyl floor sealant.

[Jack]

I actually don't know what marley is.. .so this may be the wrong thing
to do.. .but to remove scuff marks from our hardwood gym floor we use
the heel of our (white rubber/plastic) athletic shoe like an eraser..
while wearing it... it cleans it right up.

Sometimes when all players gather at center court to start a basketball
game we tell them to erase all scuff marks before we start.. all 10
players fan out.. erasing the marks.. it is kind of comical but very
effective.

If "marley" is a sealed hard surface that would work..

[Christopher Jahn]

Post by Jack
I actually don't know what marley is.. .

So why are you giving advice about its care?

If you don't _know_, then don't offer advice. You could lead
someone into doing serious damage.

[David McCall]

Post by Christopher Jahn

Post by Jack
I actually don't know what marley is.. .

So why are you giving advice about its care?
If you don't _know_, then don't offer advice. You could lead
someone into doing serious damage.

I felt that he bracketed his advice adequitely. He isn't saying
"Do this, it will work great" but rather
"Here is how we get scuffs out of our floor, but it is a diferent
material, so don't take my word for it YMMV"
At least that's how I took it.

It isn't like he is telling us that we should hang trusses with sash cord
:-)


The internet is full of advice. Most of us realize that some of
it is good advice, and a lot of it is bogus (sometimes on purpose).

David

Post by Christopher Jahn
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html
We all live in a yellow subroutine.

[Christopher Jahn]

Post by David McCall
I felt that he bracketed his advice adequitely. He isn't
saying "Do this, it will work great" but rather
"Here is how we get scuffs out of our floor, but it is a
diferent material, so don't take my word for it YMMV"
At least that's how I took it.

Fair enough.

[Jack]

FWIW.. I did not give advice on the care of Marley, I presented what I
think is a pretty unique, cheap, solvent free and very effective way to
remove scuffmarks from hard, sealed surfaces.. be it varnished hardwood
floors.. tile. whatever.

My thought was that it was pretty good general knowledge, and may or
may not apply to Marley, but even if it didn't it may help somewhere
else down the line when you may be faced with scuff marks.

Didn't mean to dredge up any hostility... would have kept my mouth shut
if I knew it would be a controversial statement.

[Ioan Barladeanu]

If "Marley" has a glossier finish, it will work (use pencil eraser). If
it's rather rubbery-non-slipery-like, it might make things worse.

[Christopher Jahn]

Post by Ioan Barladeanu
If "Marley" has a glossier finish, it will work (use pencil
eraser). If it's rather rubbery-non-slipery-like, it might
make things worse.

Since it is a latex based dance floor....

[Christopher Jahn]

Post by Jack
FWIW.. I did not give advice on the care of Marley, I
presented what I think is a pretty unique, cheap, solvent free
and very effective way to remove scuffmarks from hard, sealed
surfaces.. be it varnished hardwood floors.. tile. whatever.

I refer you to the subject of the discussion; 'nuff said. The
topic is "marley", not hardwood, tile or "whatever".

Post by Jack
Didn't mean to dredge up any hostility... would have kept my
mouth shut if I knew it would be a controversial statement.

You start out by saying you know absolutely nothing relevant to
the subject, then proceed to give an opinion about it.
Controversial? Probably not. Arrogant? Maybe a little.

Think it over: if the subject were brain surgery, would you have
posted an opinion on how to go about it?

There is no need to give an answer if you don't know the correct
answer, or even a relevant one. You could have done a quick
Google search to learn what the poster was asking about, instead
of giving advice that can't be applied to the care and
maintenance of a marley dance floor - which is definitely not a
hard sealed surface.

[Jack]

Yes sir Mr. Jahn, I will clear all posts through you in the future..
you being the boss of this newsgroup and all...

[David McCall]

Post by Jack
Yes sir Mr. Jahn, I will clear all posts through you in the future..
you being the boss of this newsgroup and all...

Oh come on, have a heart
You know Mr. Jahn can't have a beer anymore.

David

[Sean]

Post by Jack
Yes sir Mr. Jahn, I will clear all posts through you in the future..
you being the boss of this newsgroup and all...

<thread hijack>
I've been reading a very heavily moderated web-based forum quite a bit
lately and, I have to say, a person really gets to miss the cut and thrust
of good old Usenet after a while.

Its rough sometimes, but its freedom of speech - something I don't take for
granted quite as much as I used to - long may it continue. :o)
</thread hijack>

Sean
x

[Christopher Jahn]

Post by Jack
Yes sir Mr. Jahn, I will clear all posts through you in the
future.. you being the boss of this newsgroup and all...

All you need to do is engage your brain before you start typing.

[Sarah Thiboutot]

Post by Jack
I actually don't know what marley is.. .so this may be the wrong thing
to do.. .but to remove scuff marks from our hardwood gym floor we use
the heel of our (white rubber/plastic) athletic shoe like an eraser..
while wearing it... it cleans it right up.
Sometimes when all players gather at center court to start a basketball
game we tell them to erase all scuff marks before we start.. all 10
players fan out.. erasing the marks.. it is kind of comical but very
effective.
If "marley" is a sealed hard surface that would work..

"Marley" is a brand name for vinyl dance floor surface. Sometimes it is
a permanent install, but more commonly it comes in 4' wide rolls that
are rolled out and taped down for a dance performance.

[charles]

Post by Sarah Thiboutot

Post by Jack
I actually don't know what marley is.. .so this may be the wrong thing
to do.. .but to remove scuff marks from our hardwood gym floor we use
the heel of our (white rubber/plastic) athletic shoe like an eraser..
while wearing it... it cleans it right up.
Sometimes when all players gather at center court to start a basketball
game we tell them to erase all scuff marks before we start.. all 10
players fan out.. erasing the marks.. it is kind of comical but very
effective.
If "marley" is a sealed hard surface that would work..

"Marley" is a brand name for vinyl dance floor surface. Sometimes it is
a permanent install, but more commonly it comes in 4' wide rolls that
are rolled out and taped down for a dance performance.

Probably what we call "Harlequin" on this side of the pond. Although
Marley (a British Company) do make flooring, they are best known for their
building products, mainly pvc drainage goods & concrete roofing tiles - not
quite what you'd put on a dance floor.

[Sean]

Post by charles
Probably what we call "Harlequin" on this side of the pond.

Its fairly universally known as "Marley" in the rock & roll side of the UK
entertainment industry though. Maybe thats just a case of us adopting US
terminology because we work with so many American touring crews though,
dunno.

Sean
x

[Ron Killmer]

Post by charles

Post by Sarah Thiboutot

Post by Jack
I actually don't know what marley is.. .so this may be the wrong thing
to do.. .but to remove scuff marks from our hardwood gym floor we use
the heel of our (white rubber/plastic) athletic shoe like an eraser..
while wearing it... it cleans it right up.
Sometimes when all players gather at center court to start a basketball
game we tell them to erase all scuff marks before we start.. all 10
players fan out.. erasing the marks.. it is kind of comical but very
effective.
If "marley" is a sealed hard surface that would work..

"Marley" is a brand name for vinyl dance floor surface. Sometimes it is
a permanent install, but more commonly it comes in 4' wide rolls that
are rolled out and taped down for a dance performance.

Probably what we call "Harlequin" on this side of the pond. Although
Marley (a British Company) do make flooring, they are best known for their
building products, mainly pvc drainage goods & concrete roofing tiles - not
quite what you'd put on a dance floor.

What I find interesting is which segment of the entertainment industry you
are talking with. The Dance community I deal with use "Harlequin" to
describe dance flooring with the Rosco company product called "Rosco".

There is a belief that Harlequin is superior and preferred over Rosco.
After seeing samples of Harlequin last summer I know know why the
preference. The material was nearly double the thickness with a slight
airiness. The Rosco I have help rollout being solid vinyl.

[Christian]

| There is a belief that Harlequin is superior and preferred over Rosco.
| After seeing samples of Harlequin last summer I know know why the
| preference. The material was nearly double the thickness with a slight
| airiness. The Rosco I have help rollout being solid vinyl.


Both companies sell many different weights and finishes. Some folks prefer
one brand over another because of the perceived texture under foot. Both
sell very thick vinyl with felt backing or thick vinyl with high tech foam
back. $$$$$ Dancers love it. Management doesn't!


CTucker
NY

[Ron Killmer]

Post by Christian
| There is a belief that Harlequin is superior and preferred over Rosco.
| After seeing samples of Harlequin last summer I know know why the
| preference. The material was nearly double the thickness with a slight
| airiness. The Rosco I have help rollout being solid vinyl.
Both companies sell many different weights and finishes. Some folks prefer
one brand over another because of the perceived texture under foot. Both
sell very thick vinyl with felt backing or thick vinyl with high tech foam
back. $$$$$ Dancers love it. Management doesn't!
CTucker
NY

Well the taxpayers just bought Harlequin for a 60 by 30 foot stage.
Management went with the Dancers preference of material and the the
Lighting Designers preference for color (black) and non-glossy. Fellow
was actually a bit gleeful about diverting some unused excess funds in the
state office buildings budget to this project.

Post by Ron Killmer

Post by charles

Post by Sarah Thiboutot

Post by Jack
I actually don't know what marley is.. .so this may be the wrong thing
to do.. .but to remove scuff marks from our hardwood gym floor we use
the heel of our (white rubber/plastic) athletic shoe like an eraser..
while wearing it... it cleans it right up.
Sometimes when all players gather at center court to start a basketball
game we tell them to erase all scuff marks before we start.. all 10
players fan out.. erasing the marks.. it is kind of comical but very
effective.
If "marley" is a sealed hard surface that would work..

"Marley" is a brand name for vinyl dance floor surface. Sometimes it is
a permanent install, but more commonly it comes in 4' wide rolls that
are rolled out and taped down for a dance performance.

Probably what we call "Harlequin" on this side of the pond. Although
Marley (a British Company) do make flooring, they are best known for their
building products, mainly pvc drainage goods & concrete roofing tiles - not
quite what you'd put on a dance floor.

What I find interesting is which segment of the entertainment industry you
are talking with. The Dance community I deal with use "Harlequin" to
describe dance flooring with the Rosco company product called "Rosco".
There is a belief that Harlequin is superior and preferred over Rosco.
After seeing samples of Harlequin last summer I know know why the
preference. The material was nearly double the thickness with a slight
airiness. The Rosco I have help rollout being solid vinyl.

It may just be that they are actually different products with the same
surface. We have a Marley with some additional cushion since we roll it out
over a concrete floor. The surface is the same as the uncushioned but it
has an underlayer of dense foam. While it is a lot nicer on the feet and
joints, it isn't as resilient as a good sprung floor. The cushioned Marley
is about 2 or 2.5X as thick as the Marley without the extra cushion. On
this side of the pond, all the manufacturers have both uncushioned and
cushioned models.

Peter

[Stephen Mason]

Post by dwickert
Hey, all --
We've got scuff marks on our Marley, that we're trying to remove. We
normally use 50/50 rubbing alcohol to water to clean it, and we've
tried Goo Gone on the scuffs, which gets out about half of the marks.
Does anyone know of any other products, professional or home remedy,
that can take out the other half?
Thanks!

I've removed scuff marks from my vinyl kitchen floor (caused by a
pair of soft black soled sandles) with "Astonish" cooker cleaner, the
white paste type in a tub. Works a treat for me.

Bear in mind it is very slightly abrasive, so try it on an old piece
first to see if it suits your needs.

Hope this helps.

Steve Mason

[dwickert]

Thank you all. Yes, we roll our Marley and move it every few days.
We're on tour, and lay it over the stage floor to give us a floor the
color we want, without having to re-do the spike marks. It's a
non-shiny vinyl, and we'll sacrifice a scrap piece to try the magic
sponges (Mr. Clean Magic Erase, here in the US) and the Astonish.

Thank you again for your suggestions!