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Seeking Info on Ghost Special Effects and "Seance Tricks"
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L***@msn.com
2009-03-20 18:11:10 UTC
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I'm looking for some information on "Ghost Special Effects" -- that
is, special effects that can be used to simulate ghostly happenings.

I'm currently working on a theater adaption of "Old Applejoy's Ghost,"
a Christmas tale by the American writer Frank R. Stockton (author of
"The Lady or the Tiger?")

In the story, the heroine is a young girl named Beatrice (age 19). In
the year 1900, she comes to live with her grumpy, miserly old uncle,
John Applejoy, who lives alone in an old New England country mansion.
But there are spirits in the old house. Soon, Beatrice begins to
believe that the house is haunted by the ghost of her great-
grandfather, Colonel Thomas Applejoy, a legendary Revolutionary War
soldier

As Christmas approaches, Beatrice wants to throw a Christmas party at
the mansion, but her miserly uncle will not hear of it. One night,
Beatrice is visited by Colonel Applejoy's ghost, who shows her the
storerooms full of good food and wine in the basement of the mansion,
and instructs her on how to prepare the mansion for the Christmas
party.

But Uncle John (who is a comic "grouchy old uncle" character) refuses
to believe Beatrice's story about the ghost. To convince him, Old
Applejoy's ghost begins playing ghostly tricks on Uncle John, until he
finally gives in and permits Beatrice to throw the Christmas party.

So that's the story. I'm sort of interested as to what kinds of
special effects are used to simulate ghostly happenings on the stage.
Yes, I know. The staging of ghosts is often a matter of costumes,
lighting, and sound effects (i.e. ghostly wind), with a bit of dry ice
smoke thrown in now and then.

I'm looking for what *else* can be done. For example, if an object
(i.e. a pitcher or quill pen) needs to float in the air, how could it
be done? With wires, a la marionette style? How do you make a chair
move back from a table on its own, as if it is being pulled out by an
invisible ghost?

What about shadow effects? I know that seeing a shadow on a wall can
indicate the presence of a ghost. How is this done?

I'm also sort of interested in the old "seance tricks." For example, I
once saw a TV show where a woman pretending to be a medium led a
seance to try to contact a ghost. In the middle of a seance, a "ghost"
-- a transparent image of a man -- appeared alongside the table.

It turned out that the seance was fake. When the woman pretending to
be the medium pushed a button under the table, a large, six-foot pane
of glass slid out from inside a hidden panel into an open arch doorway
in the room. The woman's accomplice -- playing the "ghost" -- was
concealed just inside the open arch doorway, out of sight of the
seance attendees. The lights were turned low in the room for the
seance, and when the man stepped to a certain spot just inside the
open arch doorway, his transparent image was reflected in the pane of
glass, giving the illusion of a "ghost" to the attendees.

Anyway, that's the kind of thing I'm looking for. Does anyone have any
special tricks that they use to create ghost effects in the theater?
Or does anyone know of any books that describe tricks like that? I'm
interested in finding out what can and can't be done on stage
concerning ghosts.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
charles
2009-03-20 18:22:16 UTC
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Post by L***@msn.com
I'm looking for some information on "Ghost Special Effects" -- that
is, special effects that can be used to simulate ghostly happenings.
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Post by L***@msn.com
It turned out that the seance was fake. When the woman pretending to
be the medium pushed a button under the table, a large, six-foot pane
of glass slid out from inside a hidden panel into an open arch doorway
in the room. The woman's accomplice -- playing the "ghost" -- was
concealed just inside the open arch doorway, out of sight of the
seance attendees. The lights were turned low in the room for the
seance, and when the man stepped to a certain spot just inside the
open arch doorway, his transparent image was reflected in the pane of
glass, giving the illusion of a "ghost" to the attendees.
That is, as far as I know, called Pepper's Ghost. I have seen an image
projected onto a 'screen' of smoke. You can also have people "appear" or
"dissappear" by suitable distraction techniques -getting the audience to
look at the other side of the stage - for example.

Fishing line can be used to move objects invisibly.
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Torrance Bell
2009-03-21 00:31:16 UTC
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Yeah, distraction is an important aspect in ghostings. Sound effects can help a lot. Flash paper?

The glass thing with the ghost /is/ called 'Peppers Ghost' The biggest display of this that I can think of is in the Disney Haunted Mansion. The
whole ballroom has a giant sheet of glass, installed when the building was built, and irreplaceable without huge cost. Look for a cobweb floating in
the air, someone got excited with a bb gun or something and put a hole in it, but I forget which disneyland this was at, I want to say the Anaheim
location.

Torrance
Islander
2009-03-21 22:39:23 UTC
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I have done most of these.. including a peppers ghost for a Halloween
walk throughhaunted house last year. 1 flat with a window in it.
(heat shrink) another flat with as a brick wall behind as the main
view.. and a large pane of glass at a 45 degree angle between them the
actor is at the side of the flat facing the glass. These are
difficult to do for a full audience as the angle of the glass has to
cover most of the audience. On a small scale it worked well with only
one or 2 viewers at a time.

Now for other tricks. Try pushing books from a bookcase, a small slot
in the flat behind the bookcase at the lever of each shelf. and a 1/2
in piece of plywood to push into place pushing the books to the floor.
Knock some plates of a plate rail with pieces of stiff wire pushed
through small holes in the flat.. Pull the pin on one end of the
hinged plate rail to dump he rest of them.. Blow sheers curtains
through the windows ... this works well if there is no wind sound..
Spring loaded doors wired so they can be opened or closed by a
stagehand as the actor enters or exits.. Have the actor ride a small
hidden dolly pulled by a wire from offstage.. Looks like they are
floating (used by Yvonne de Carlo in the Munster's) drop a
chandelier.. Knock paintings on the wall crocked or knock them down..
same as the plate rail.. I use small bungie cable in addition to the
lash line to do a lot of these to give it a more realistic look as
they fall.. and seem to bounce on their own. Most of these I
created for a recent production of Blithe Spirit.. what a fun show to
do. For the plates... we used real (but inexpensive) china so it
would shatter and have excellent shock factor.

Hope some of these ideas help

cheers
Marv
Rob Cashwalker
2009-03-23 21:15:03 UTC
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they fall.. and seem to bounce on their own.    Most of these I
created for a recent production of Blithe Spirit.. what a fun show to
do.  For the plates... we used real  (but inexpensive) china so it
would shatter and have excellent shock factor.
My group was going to do Blithe Spirit, but it's going back to
Broadway. My producers were telling me I was going to have to levitate
a table... Did you figure out how to do that?
l***@theclarientgroup.com
2009-03-24 00:48:04 UTC
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Now for other tricks. Try pushing books from a bookcase,  a small slot
in the flat behind the bookcase at the lever of each shelf. and a 1/2
in piece of plywood to push into place pushing the books to the floor.
Knock some plates of a plate rail with pieces of stiff wire pushed
through small holes in the flat..  Pull the pin on one end of the
hinged plate rail to dump he rest of them.. Blow sheers curtains
through the windows   ... this works well if there is no wind sound..
Spring loaded doors wired so they can be opened or closed by a
stagehand as the actor enters or exits..  Have the actor ride a small
hidden dolly pulled by a wire from offstage.. Looks like they are
floating (used by Yvonne de Carlo in the Munster's)    drop a
chandelier.. Knock paintings on the wall crocked or knock them down..
same as the plate rail..   I use small bungie cable in addition to the
lash line to do a lot of these to give it a more realistic look as
they fall.. and seem to bounce on their own.    Most of these I
created for a recent production of Blithe Spirit.. what a fun show to
do.  For the plates... we used real  (but inexpensive) china so it
would shatter and have excellent shock factor.
Hope some of these ideas help
cheers
Marv
Blithe Spirit is exactly the show that comes to mind. I used spring
loaded mouse traps to send cheap greenware flying across the stage,
and as you mention, plungers to push books off a shelf. Also had a
few rigged items that flew across the stage and were caught on the
other side. Loads of fun!!
jcsaint
2009-03-28 16:11:31 UTC
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Now for other tricks. Try pushing books from a bookcase,  a small slot
in the flat behind the bookcase at the lever of each shelf. and a 1/2
in piece of plywood to push into place pushing the books to the floor.
Knock some plates of a plate rail with pieces of stiff wire pushed
through small holes in the flat..  Pull the pin on one end of the
hinged plate rail to dump he rest of them.. Blow sheers curtains
through the windows   ... this works well if there is no wind sound..
Spring loaded doors wired so they can be opened or closed by a
stagehand as the actor enters or exits..  Have the actor ride a small
hidden dolly pulled by a wire from offstage.. Looks like they are
floating (used by Yvonne de Carlo in the Munster's)    drop a
chandelier.. Knock paintings on the wall crocked or knock them down..
same as the plate rail..   I use small bungie cable in addition to the
lash line to do a lot of these to give it a more realistic look as
they fall.. and seem to bounce on their own.    Most of these I
created for a recent production of Blithe Spirit.. what a fun show to
do.  For the plates... we used real  (but inexpensive) china so it
would shatter and have excellent shock factor.
Hope some of these ideas help
cheers
Marv
Blithe Spirit is exactly the show that comes to mind.  I used spring
loaded mouse traps to send cheap greenware flying across the stage,
and as you mention, plungers to push books off a shelf.  Also had a
few rigged items that flew across  the stage and were caught on the
other side.  Loads of fun!!- Hide quoted text -
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I TD'd Blithe Spirit last fall - some of our tricks:

1) Doors opening and closing - the doors opened upstage. We used
fishing line attached to the door to pull it open. For the closing,
we attached a metal spring screen door closer to the bottom of the
door. When you let go of the fishing line, the door snaps shut. We
also used fans to make the curtains flap when the doors opened.

2) Paintings falling off of walls - the paintings were hung on wooden
dowels that poked through the flats. When the dowels were removed by
a stagehand behind the flat, the painting fell.

3) Flying books - same "plunger idea" as stated in a previous
response.

4) Moving chair - fishing line was tied to the leg of a chair. We ran
the line though a small hole in the flat. When the line is pulled,
the chair flipped.

5) Levitating table - during the seance scene, we rigged the table
with simple foot pedals, made from wedged doorstops affixed to the
legs of the table. A long tablecloth concealed the foot pedals. The
actors operated the effect - the end result was a table that "bumped"
on cue.

6) Shaking plants - same idea as the "moving chair" trick. Tie
fishing line to the stems of the plant and run it through a hole in
the flat. Pull the line gently, and the plant will shake.

7) To simulate a ghost, you could use a one-way mirror. Behind the
mirror, build a small shelf above holding a bucket of hot water. Add
dry ice to the water when you are ready for the effect. Have an actor
stand under the shelf and shine a light from above/behind the mirror.
The light will make the mirror "transparent", revealing the actor
standing in an eerie ghostly fog... it's a cool effect a la Phantom of
the Opera.

That's about it... of course, dry ice fog, etc is always a lot of
fun. Flash paper could also be used for some clever startling
tricks... Experiment and let us know what you come up with!

Justin

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