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blithe spirit seance table
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islander
2004-05-27 16:23:41 UTC
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Have any of you done this one... I am looking for some bright ideas to
levitate the table. The set designer suggested strong wrist watch
bands with 6 in wire hooked twen the wrists and the table.??

cheers
Marv
Ken Wiebe
2004-05-27 18:43:42 UTC
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There's the tried and true pedestal table with foot operated lift device
hidden by long table cloth or if the table is light enough thumb holes for
the talent to pick it up with.

The flying books well......Depends on your budget, at the Shaw Festival we
had a combo of hydraulic rams and human pulled fishing lines.

Ken
Post by islander
Have any of you done this one... I am looking for some bright ideas to
levitate the table. The set designer suggested strong wrist watch
bands with 6 in wire hooked twen the wrists and the table.??
cheers
Marv
Chris Warner
2004-05-27 21:11:17 UTC
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The way this was done when we did it (lite the show in 1997 so it's been a
while) was that one actor had a notch in the back of a ring, and a T-pin was
hidden on the table, when the actor placed the ring over the T-Pin he had
complete control of the table, flying books can be done with fishing line,
with the caveat that the books be not too heavy. We also made a typewriter
operate and drawers open and some other odd things...

Just some ideas to think about.

Chris
Post by Ken Wiebe
There's the tried and true pedestal table with foot operated lift device
hidden by long table cloth or if the table is light enough thumb holes for
the talent to pick it up with.
The flying books well......Depends on your budget, at the Shaw Festival we
had a combo of hydraulic rams and human pulled fishing lines.
Ken
Post by islander
Have any of you done this one... I am looking for some bright ideas to
levitate the table. The set designer suggested strong wrist watch
bands with 6 in wire hooked twen the wrists and the table.??
cheers
Marv
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islander
2004-05-27 23:25:19 UTC
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Geting some good ideas here...Chris, tell me how did you rig the
mechanical typewriter.. We are staging this - period mid 1930s so an
old underwood upright would be appropriate on the set. Love the idea
of the drawers open and close... very visual. and easy to do as long
as the chest is against a back wall. We do have some budget for tricks
byt we are only doing 6 shows.. so cant be too elaborate. Just
visually good.

cheers
Marv
Post by Chris Warner
The way this was done when we did it (lite the show in 1997 so it's been a
while) was that one actor had a notch in the back of a ring, and a T-pin was
hidden on the table, when the actor placed the ring over the T-Pin he had
complete control of the table, flying books can be done with fishing line,
with the caveat that the books be not too heavy. We also made a typewriter
operate and drawers open and some other odd things...
Just some ideas to think about.
Chris
Post by Ken Wiebe
There's the tried and true pedestal table with foot operated lift device
hidden by long table cloth or if the table is light enough thumb holes for
the talent to pick it up with.
The flying books well......Depends on your budget, at the Shaw Festival we
had a combo of hydraulic rams and human pulled fishing lines.
Ken
Post by islander
Have any of you done this one... I am looking for some bright ideas to
levitate the table. The set designer suggested strong wrist watch
bands with 6 in wire hooked twen the wrists and the table.??
cheers
Marv
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Chris Warner
2004-05-28 05:11:00 UTC
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We tied some fishing line to the space bar and some miscellaneous keys and
the return bar, then had some people back stage pulling on the strings. Teh
drawers were rigged with a push rod through the wall and a peice of string
to pull the drawer back. As I recall when we did the effects it was just
before the final blackout and the house litterally went beserk, and all the
cast was back stage pulling pushing and moving something.

All of this can be rigged wtih solenoids that are controlled with effects
sequences from you light board too(granted you have the dimmer capacity to
handle that many 120V circuits). I have seen pneumatics used as well, but
this can make an unpleasant hissing sound whenever something has to move,
envision the head that jumps out of the cascet at the haunted masion in
Disney land.

My 2 pieces of copper for the day.
Chris
Post by islander
Geting some good ideas here...Chris, tell me how did you rig the
mechanical typewriter.. We are staging this - period mid 1930s so an
old underwood upright would be appropriate on the set. Love the idea
of the drawers open and close... very visual. and easy to do as long
as the chest is against a back wall. We do have some budget for tricks
byt we are only doing 6 shows.. so cant be too elaborate. Just
visually good.
cheers
Marv
Post by Chris Warner
The way this was done when we did it (lite the show in 1997 so it's been a
while) was that one actor had a notch in the back of a ring, and a T-pin was
hidden on the table, when the actor placed the ring over the T-Pin he had
complete control of the table, flying books can be done with fishing line,
with the caveat that the books be not too heavy. We also made a typewriter
operate and drawers open and some other odd things...
Just some ideas to think about.
Chris
Post by Ken Wiebe
There's the tried and true pedestal table with foot operated lift device
hidden by long table cloth or if the table is light enough thumb holes for
the talent to pick it up with.
The flying books well......Depends on your budget, at the Shaw Festival we
had a combo of hydraulic rams and human pulled fishing lines.
Ken
Post by islander
Have any of you done this one... I am looking for some bright ideas to
levitate the table. The set designer suggested strong wrist watch
bands with 6 in wire hooked twen the wrists and the table.??
cheers
Marv
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Frank Wood
2004-05-27 21:07:04 UTC
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Post by islander
Have any of you done this one... I am looking for some bright ideas to
levitate the table. The set designer suggested strong wrist watch
bands with 6 in wire hooked twen the wrists and the table.??
Read a novel by Dorothy L.Sayers entitled 'Strong Poison'. This includes a lot
of good advice on how to fake a seance.


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Torak
2004-05-29 13:39:51 UTC
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Post by islander
Have any of you done this one... I am looking for some bright ideas to
levitate the table. The set designer suggested strong wrist watch
bands with 6 in wire hooked twen the wrists and the table.??
The most effective way is to build a very light table out of balsa wood
or similar, and drill sockets on the back edge, spaced to fit rods
strapped to the actor's forearms. That way the hands are far enough onto
the table to avoid looking like they're lifting it.
Frank Wood
2004-05-31 22:46:54 UTC
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Post by Torak
The most effective way is to build a very light table out of balsa wood
or similar, and drill sockets on the back edge, spaced to fit rods
strapped to the actor's forearms. That way the hands are far enough onto
the table to avoid looking like they're lifting it.
I think I said the before, but I'll say it again. Read Dorothy L Sayers novel
"Strong Poison". This includes a lot of good advice on how to fake a seance,

Read as many more of her novels as you care to. Me, I'm an addict. Iread them
all at least twice a year.
Frank Wood
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Lawrence Stromski
2004-05-31 23:17:57 UTC
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If your looking for tips on how to fake a Séance you should have just
watched Derin Brown's Séance on Channel 4. Boy was that a little freaky. So
obviously completely set-up and faked, but freaky none the less.
The mini-site reveals a lot of the tricks he uses:
http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/M/mindcontrol/

(Anyone know how he got the stuff to fly around the room?)
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Post by Torak
The most effective way is to build a very light table out of balsa wood
or similar, and drill sockets on the back edge, spaced to fit rods
strapped to the actor's forearms. That way the hands are far enough onto
the table to avoid looking like they're lifting it.
I think I said the before, but I'll say it again. Read Dorothy L Sayers novel
"Strong Poison". This includes a lot of good advice on how to fake a seance,
Read as many more of her novels as you care to. Me, I'm an addict. Iread them
all at least twice a year.
Frank Wood
Torak
2004-06-01 13:52:04 UTC
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Post by Frank Wood
I think I said the before, but I'll say it again. Read Dorothy L Sayers novel
"Strong Poison". This includes a lot of good advice on how to fake a seance,
Read as many more of her novels as you care to. Me, I'm an addict. Iread them
all at least twice a year.
One of my favourites, apart from Murder Must Advertise, is - oh, what's
it called now - Five Red Herrings. Well, something about Red Herrings,
anyway.

Mainly because I live just outside Kirkcudbright.
Frank Wood
2004-06-01 21:01:32 UTC
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Post by Torak
Murder Must Advertise, is - oh, what's
it called now - Five Red Herrings. Well, something about Red Herrings,
anyway.
Mainly because I live just outside Kirkcudbright.
I have been there, and stayed at the Anwoth.

Frank Wood
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Torak
2004-06-02 21:53:58 UTC
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Post by Frank Wood
Post by Torak
Murder Must Advertise, is - oh, what's
it called now - Five Red Herrings. Well, something about Red Herrings,
anyway.
Mainly because I live just outside Kirkcudbright.
I have been there, and stayed at the Anwoth.
The Anwoth's in Gatehouse - I tend to eat there quite a lot when I'm
home, partly because they have the good sense to serve chips on 14"
plates. Nice place, too.

Obviously, of course, it means I get very disappointed when David
Coulthard never wins a race. ;-)

EZman37
2004-06-02 16:05:51 UTC
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use a foot peddle if possible. i did the show once where i had the legs on a
small platform and raised it with 2 foot peddles. the tablecloth covered the
device and it worked out great. good luck
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